Government Whistleblower Reveals He Watched It


Confirms the Existence of a Recording of a UFO Interfering with a Dummy
Nuclear Warhead in Flight in September 1964


     According to two former US Air Force
officers—Lieutenant Bob Jacobs and Major Florenze Mansmann—a USAF
photographic team based at Vandenberg AFB, California, tasked with
filming missile test launches, inadvertently captured the image of a
domed, disc-shaped UFO as it circled and then disabled—with four flashes
of an intense beam of light—a dummy nuclear warhead flying downrange
over the Pacific Ocean. Jacobs had been in charge of the telescopic
photography site located at Big Sur, California, and Mansmann was
Vandenberg’s chief photographic imagery analyst.
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By Robert Hastings
The UFO Chronicles

The date of the dramatic incident was September 15, 1964. Two days later, a
highly-restricted screening of the spectacular footage took place at the
base—attended by Jacobs, Mansmann, and two CIA officers who immediately
classified the event Top Secret. The film was then confiscated by the pair and
flown “back East” for analysis and storage, according to Major Mansmann. The
destination was undoubtedly the CIA’s National Photographic Interpretation
Center (NPIC) which, it is now known, had already engaged in UFO photo analysis
for years.

By the early 1980s, Jacobs felt that enough time had passed following the
stunning UFO encounter to allow him to discuss it publicly. He has explained
that, at the time of the 1964 film screening at Vandenberg, Major Mansmann had
only ordered him “not to talk about” the unexpected filming of the UFO with
anyone, pointedly saying that it had “never happened”. No mention was made of
its Top Secret classification, for reasons that remain unclear to the former
Lieutenant. Furthermore, because the two officers lost touch with each other
after leaving the Air Force, 19 years passed before Mansmann was able confirm
to Jacobs that the two mysterious men in civilian clothes at the screening
were in fact CIA personnel.

In any case, in 1982, Jacobs wrote an article about the extraordinary event
which, unfortunately, was published in the sensationalistic
National Enquirer tabloid, after OMNI magazine had rejected it.
Shortly after the story appeared, Dr. Jacobs—by then a university professor
specializing in Communications—began getting death threats from unidentified
persons who repeatedly harassed him over the telephone. He also received
intimidating letters from certain well-known UFO “skeptics” who attempted to
get Jacobs to retract the story. The suspicious, unpublicized connections
those individuals had with the US Government will be discussed in Part 2 of
this article.

I first interviewed Jacobs in 1986, in conjunction with my long-term research
into UFO-related activity at nuclear weapons sites, as summarized in my book,
UFOs and Nukes: Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites.
In 2021, Luis “Lue” Elizondo, the former director of a previously-secret UFO
project at the Pentagon—the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
(AATIP)—confirmed in a

that his group had utilized the book as a resource when conducting its own
research into UFO incursions at nuclear weapon sites. Said Elizondo, “There
was a lot of information we didn’t have access to that, it turned out, Robert
Hastings did…We were able to validate and substantiate exactly what he was


In February 2023, a US Senate investigator—who has asked to remain
anonymous—told me that Elizondo had privately confirmed having been given
access to the Big Sur UFO film while with AATIP, and that it showed exactly
what Dr. Jacobs has maintained over the years: A UFO actually interfered with
an Atlas missile in flight, as it carried a dummy nuclear warhead aloft. The
official Air Force video of the encounter captures the moment the unknown
object appears to engage the warhead with a luminous beam—which turned on and
off four times—as it travelled downrange at several thousand miles-per-hour
over the Pacific Ocean.

The Senate investigator, knowing of my research, had previously arranged a
teleconference between Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick—then the head of the All-domain Anomaly
Resolution Office (AARO)—and myself, to coordinate the scheduling of
interviews by AARO staffers of several of my sources, all former/retired USAF
personnel who had worked with or guarded nuclear missiles. Those interviews
began in January 2023, as noted in an earlier
of mine.

Regarding Elizondo’s admission about having watched the Big Sur UFO video—it
was on a DVD—the Senate investigator, while accompanying Elizondo to and from
AARO, said Elizondo’s interview was conducted by Dr. Kirkpatrick himself, on
February 2, 2023. During that briefing, the former AATIP director confirmed
the existence of the video, the details regarding what it showed, and the
location of a copy of it in AATIP’s workspaces.

The Senate investigator subsequently wrote to me on April 27, 2023, saying,

Robert – Sean has told me that [when he searched] for the Big Sur video in the
safe drawer where Lue told him to look, [it] was “empty”. He also claimed to
me that there is an explanation for this event – namely, a test of an ABM
missile (like Nike?) that day. I told Lue about this and he practically
screamed “bullshit”. Thought you should know that we are nowhere on this issue
with AARO. Finding a copy of that video is really important.

It is also important to note that the Pentagon has previously admitted it
destroyed all of Elizondo’s files and emails after he resigned his position in
protest, the fall of 2017. This highly unusual move by the Pentagon is in
direct violation of a legal Preservation Order that was mandated based on
Elizondo’s other duties at the time. The order requires all of Elizondo’s
electronic and hard copy files to be preserved indefinitely, including email
and correspondence.

Significantly, additional confirmation exists regarding Elizondo’s admission
about having seen the video of the original film while with AATIP. On November
10, 2023, a highly-reliable source—who I am not at liberty to identify—told me
that UAP whistleblower David Grusch has privately confirmed that Elizondo also
told him about having screened the Big Sur film, and that it did indeed
capture an amazing, UFO-related, dummy warhead-interference event.

While assigned to the UAP Taskforce, from 2019-21, Grusch apparently went so
far as to have a colleague search one Department of Defense archive, the
Defense Technical Information Center, at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, in an effort
to find out whether any corroborating evidence—other than the film

According to my very credible source, a now-declassified, but as yet
unreleased radar data record of the September 15, 1964 missile launch was
discovered, which confirmed the tracking of an unidentified aerial object near
the dummy warhead at the time of the incident.

Analysis contained in the radar summary apparently considered the possibility
that the “object” was actually debris of some kind. Jacobs has stated that
when the warhead separated from the missile booster, it had been surrounded by
a field of metallic chaff—in conjunction with the test being conducted—that
was still visible in the camera frame at the time of the UFO’s appearance. The
Air Force wanted to know whether embedding airborne warheads in chaff, during
an actual war, would prevent the Soviets from identifying the warheads’ exact
positions on their own radars.

So, perhaps the mysterious target tracked on radar near the warhead was merely
the chaff. On the other hand, it may have indeed been the actual UFO, whose
presence the author of the radar data report would probably not have known
about, given the incident’s Top Secret status.

Regardless, in one 1980s-era
written by Dr. Florenze Mansmann—who was by then a part-time biomedical
engineering researcher at Stanford University—he confirmed that his
frame-by-frame analysis of the film with a Loupe magnifier, conducted shortly
after the missile warhead test, revealed the UFO to be “[a] classic disc, the
center seemed to be a raised bubble…the entire lower saucer shape was
glowing and seemed to be rotating slowly. At the point of beam release…the
object turned like an object required to be in a position to fire from a
platform…but again this could be my own assumption from being in aerial
combat.” Mansmann’s contemporary evaluation of the UFO’s origin was explicit:
“…the assumption was, at that time, extraterrestrial.”

The Big Sur UFO Incident is arguably the most dramatic case on record of
apparent UFO interference with one of our nuclear weapon systems. As such, its
importance cannot be overstated. While the actual motivation underlying what
Jacobs has referred to as ”the shooting down” of the dummy warhead remains
unknown—he has speculated that it was designed to convey someone’s displeasure
over our possession of nuclear weapons—the act itself was nevertheless
unmistakably provocative and, from a technological perspective, absolutely

Part 2 of this article to be posted soon.

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