Wookieepedia:Comprehensive article nominations/Rebecca Soler: Difference between revisions | Wookieepedia

• Nominated by: ThePedantry (talk) 23:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
• Nomination comments:
• Word count at nomination time: 202 words (65 introduction, 137 body, 0 behind the scenes)
• WookieeProject (optional):

(2 ECs/0 Users/2 Total)

(Votes required: Additional 3 user or 1 EC vote required to pass.)

Support[]

1. Lewisr (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
2. CometSmudge (talk) 02:01, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Object[]

JocastaBot[]

• Current word count violates Comprehensive requirements: article has an introduction, but word count of body is under 165 words.JocastaBot (talk) 23:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

[[Category:Status article nominations that violate the word count requirement]]

Lew[]

• The intro should include mention of Rebecca’s SW works Lewisr (talk) 01:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
• The biography section should include release years for the various sources mentioned Lewisr (talk) 01:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
• Yula Braylon and Dooku: Jedi Lost both need some context (i.e. that Yula is a Jedi Master and that DLJ is an audio drama) Lewisr (talk) 01:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Should be updated with all of this feedback —ThePedantry (talk) 06:01, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
• The body is at 156 now so you no longer need the intro 01:21, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Jocasta says the body is at 160—ThePedantry (talk) 01:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
    • The count I did on wordcounter said 156, but it still needs to have 165 words to have an intro per point 12 on the CAN instructions Lewisr (talk) 01:38, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
      • Should be past the limit now. Bringing real people articles up to level has been more difficult then I originally thought it would. But I am still learn 😀 —ThePedantry (talk) 02:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Birthday is infobox exclusive Lewisr (talk) 21:09, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• I noticed the page was missing a sources section, you’ll need to include this (as well as the works section), by checking whether Rebecca is mentioned/credited in the various things in that section Lewisr (talk) 16:58, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

spookly[]

• Novels/audio dramas, when mentioned, do require their authors to be stated.
• The above Jocasta automatic objection still seems unsolved (unless it obsoletes after solving this set of objections).
  • Jocasta bot says it is 235 words in discord now so it should be good. —ThePedantry
• Infobox-exclusive information in that American isn’t mentioned in the body.
• There’s room enough for the game cover of TOR or the cover of one of the SW novels in the Biography.
• A lot of that intro information is intro-exclusive. Anything in the intro is required to be in the body, and then once it’s all relayed there, introductions don’t have references. In this case, would highly reccomend (somewhat per Lew, though further) moving all of the non-SW accolades to the Biography then listing the names of her SW credits in the intro proper since they’re of most relevance to the Wook article.—spookywilloww^talk 18:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Hello, I think I understood your feedback. Side question, do I need to respond to each bullet point? (First time doing an article nomination so thanks for the feedback) —ThePedantry (talk) 23:10, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Heya; it’s usually a mix. If they’re all simple fixes, can reply under all of them with “All addressed.” or similar; sometimes however, better to say that they’re sorted under each comments and leave individual follow-up comments or questions below individual points if more complex. In this case; seems like ‘American’ is still intro-exclusive. Lastly; this did slide to 263 words in a wordcounter check so will need to be taken to GAN.—spookywilloww^talk 03:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
      • Hello, cleaned up and updated it should have that part addressed and Jocasta says it is 235 words now so it should be good. —ThePedantry (talk) 06:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Seems like this is her Instagram? Do wonder if she has any other social media; but even if this is the only one should be added to the page and scrolled through for birthday information.—spookywilloww^talk 03:29, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Yep, Added that and Soler’s wikipedia page to external links. I wasn’t able to find any reliable sources for their brithday. A lot of IMDB type sites list it but no direct link to anything we can source. —ThePedantry (talk) 06:52, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
    • This would seem self-sourceable for birthday since her own. Assuming the webscrapers all webscraped each other and populated the wrong date across other sites.—spookywilloww^talk 01:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
      • Yeah, it could mean birthday week since it was 4 days before the day listed on other sites but I wouldn’t think that is enough to source. —ThePedantry (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
        • I mean, source it to the month only if you like (ie just August); but as far as Wook goes, we do source when someone wishes a birthday to themselves (we do it a lot on status articles, usually Tweets). The other sites are mostly crowdsourced and won’t ever be considered accurate since they all pull from each other and make info-loops, and the person themselves is pretty much as first-degree as one can get.—spookywilloww^talk 00:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
          • Added —ThePedantry (talk) 01:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
            • The added cite does need to fill out all available parameters of Template:InstagramCite correctly; happy to tweak when more of it’s there, but seems most is missing at the moment.—spookywilloww^talk 03:14, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
              • Did get fixed —ThePedantry (talk) 03:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
                • Fairly sure still some missing here. While it would be a not-too-bad copy-edit, is important to learn. I’m seeing the date field missing, the post quote is being used as description (that should instead be used as |quote=, and something else picked as description=).—spookywilloww^talk 18:37, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
                  • The date and quote fields were marked as optional in the instagram cite documentation, but no issue with me adding it since that information is easy to add. —ThePedantry (talk) 18:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
                    • Sitewide optional yes; though noting for record sake that status articles always require all possible parameters and information regardless of their individual template status; or for Instagram specifically, quotes shouldn’t be described as descriptions if they’re quotes.—spookywilloww^talk 20:19, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
                      • Makes sense, thanks for all your help on this, it should be uodated. —ThePedantry (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
• Both companies listed in the intro (Random House Audio/Listening Library) are intro-exclusive, those’ll need to be somewhere in the biography and sourced.
• The citations for American and voice artist are inconsistent between the infobox and body. I did check the official website sourced for saying she’s American (reference 1) in its current and archived version, and don’t see that it has her nationality on that page. I’d recommend swapping both of those to the USA Today interview as it does support both and would satisfy the consistency issue.
• Marc Thompson being a Star Wars veteran isn’t sourceable to the Amazon page; will need to shift around some stuff to have that bit to the USA Today interview or another source.
• Soler’s full quote about Thompson should be put into {{Quote}} for the top of the article as it has Star Wars relevance, and then in turn prosified in the biography: generally don’t write full quotes into prose without summarizing them.
  • I think I followed your suggestion. “prosified” is a new word for me so did my best with that. —ThePedantry (talk) 19:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• {{Mediacat}} missing, ie soundby= Category:Audio files of Rebecca Soler.—spookywilloww^talk 01:37, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
• Usually, SWTOR credit cites would be something like this (albeit in this case the main game only without an expansion, I believe.—spookywilloww^talk 00:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Updated —ThePedantry (talk) 01:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
    • The edit made doesn’t seem to have any changes made regarding the credit citation for TOR; I meant something similar to Tierny’s ie {{TORcite|type=other|Credits}} to put it in template form.
      • Oh, I was miss understanding, now should be updated with TORcite —ThePedantry (talk) 03:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
• Also, the article body states that Soler voiced various characters including Qo’el, while the Gameography table below only lists Qo’el. Those should be made consistent to whichever is correct.—spookywilloww^talk 00:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Looks like the cite of Qo’el made it in from IMDB, we only have Rebecca listed as Additional voices —ThePedantry (talk) 01:30, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

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